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nonspyware protocols? Anonymous 07/16/21(Fri)10:50:27 No. fg-M7EG3PY2 [Report]

the web and email are spyware by default, http has mandatory useragent and smtp has a shitton of unencryptable metadata are there any decent alternative protocols to them? >gopher it is nice, but i want something more rich, able to be filled with colored text and animated gifs >gemini seems okay, but obligatory tls is pure retardation, what if i intend to run it as an onion service? >serving postscript files over ftp is this a thing? sounds alright in my head, if a bit autistic idk of any alternatives to email, what i have in mind is something that allows you receive long messages and download them to your machine to store them long term (file transfer support not necessary) maybe an ftp server that only lets people upload .txt files? (when i say ftp i don't mean vanilla ftp, it can be sftp/ftps too)

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Anonymous 07/16/21(Fri)19:10:12 No. fg-BIXF13B8 [Report] >>fg-QD5TUNQW

>>fg-M7EG3PY2 (OP) you could probably implement something using 9P and send the text files as encrypted messages. it'd probably be cool if someone came up with something like email but using 9P and Activitypub. but yea i mean i don't think there's any real alternative to email or https other than what you're suggesting. maybe xmpp, even if xml sucks it could be more secure than email with omemo

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Anonymous 07/16/21(Fri)20:26:43 No. fg-QD5TUNQW [Report] >>fg-KSOYEMOZ

>>fg-BIXF13B8 i really need to take to time to study plan9, it is full of so much based software

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Anonymous 07/18/21(Sun)06:40:17 No. fg-PY6909WF [Report]

> http has mandatory useragent No it doesn't. You can go without. Some sites don't like that.

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Anonymous 07/21/21(Wed)03:17:56 No. fg-VRB76MRF [Report] >>fg-BATGNQZL

>>fg-M7EG3PY2 (OP) >mandatory useragent let's not forget the mandatory referer

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Anonymous 07/22/21(Thu)05:01:47 No. fg-KFE9GBV8 [Report] >>fg-0N55W6W7

https://httpwg.org/specs/rfc7231.html (Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP/1.1): Semantics and Content) > A user agent SHOULD send a User-Agent field in each request unless specifically configured not to do so. Pretty sure the referer header isn't required either. HTTP/2 RFC for reference: https://httpwg.org/specs/rfc7540.html

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Anonymous 07/22/21(Thu)14:44:29 No. fg-0N55W6W7 [Report] >>fg-LXZC6JDC

>>fg-KFE9GBV8 maybe not literally mandatory, but since everyone else sends it you'd better send as well or be easily recognizable the problem is not even it being mandatory, but that the protocol has espionage designed into it, optional or not

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Anonymous 07/29/21(Thu)04:02:47 No. fg-BATGNQZL [Report]

>>fg-VRB76MRF The Referer header is not mandatory either? Most servers won't do anything if you don't send it.

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Anonymous 07/29/21(Thu)04:04:06 No. fg-5ZMNAL2W [Report] >>fg-LN81L7OL

>>fg-M7EG3PY2 (OP) > obligatory tls is pure retardation, what if i intend to run it as an onion service? Forgive my ignorance, but why does TLS make it harder to run something as an onion service?

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Anonymous 08/03/21(Tue)19:22:52 No. fg-BT1JD3FY [Report] >>fg-LXZC6JDC

>>fg-M7EG3PY2 (OP) >http has mandatory useragent that sucks and all but why not just delete the string in browser config?

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Anonymous 08/04/21(Wed)00:40:23 No. fg-LN81L7OL [Report] >>fg-H0RFOV8H

>>fg-5ZMNAL2W TLS certificates requires the signature of the TLS mafia or most browsers will complain the certificate is invalid (the connection is still encrypted, if you choose to ignore this). But the problem is that .onion is not a "real" TLD, so there are no authorities capable of giving you a proper certificate (I think I have heard of one that does, but haven't bothered to look into it, see next point). And there is the fact that onion routing gives you automatic encryption, because when connecting to an onion service your connection is entirely within the tor network, so that's literal end-to-end encryption, making TLS redundant. >Forgive my ignorance That's alright, fedifellow.

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Anonymous 08/04/21(Wed)05:47:10 No. fg-LXZC6JDC [Report] >>fg-SQ9VE61V

>>fg-0N55W6W7 see >>fg-BT1JD3FY a server that wants to keep track of users would find a visitor that sends an empty useragent string to be quite out of the ordinary the mere presence of useragent and referer fields in the protocol facilitates surveillance, http was a mistake

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Anonymous 08/04/21(Wed)05:47:59 No. fg-SQ9VE61V [Report]

>>fg-LXZC6JDC oops i swapped the references

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Anonymous 08/04/21(Wed)20:54:33 No. fg-H0RFOV8H [Report]

>>fg-LN81L7OL you don't need signed cert for gemini, also gemini isn't understood by _web_ browsers

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Anonymous 08/04/21(Wed)20:58:55 No. fg-KSOYEMOZ [Report] >>fg-F8QZSKA6

>>fg-QD5TUNQW >full of based software Is it though? I still haven't seen any compelling use case for P9. Its cool but its just wankery at the end of the day.

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Anonymous 08/19/21(Thu)18:22:14 No. fg-XB8NR5O8 [Report]

>>fg-M7EG3PY2 (OP) >serving postscript files over ftp Is there any way to make PostScript documents interactive? More specifically, can you make a clickable link in PostScript?

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Anonymous 08/20/21(Fri)22:54:41 No. fg-F8QZSKA6 [Report] >>fg-WR48M5YJ

>>fg-KSOYEMOZ >is it though? the entire thing is made out of based. simple window system, networks are files, all processes use a simple, portable protocol. you can make a telnet client in 10 lines of shellscript. setting up networks and servers is piss easy and they're even easier to maintain. obviously its crawling though since its only like 10 actively people working on it at maximum for free, but its really nice and most things will work

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Anonymous 09/02/21(Thu)12:57:58 No. fg-R9ZP07NW [Report] >>fg-VCMSUERR >>fg-WR48M5YJ >>fg-6HYD4724

>plan 9 >mouse based interface into the trash it goes

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Anonymous 09/02/21(Thu)18:10:26 No. fg-VCMSUERR [Report]

>>fg-R9ZP07NW thats it, thats it! keep tabbing! almost there! ah- you shot too far~ shift tab..

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Anonymous 09/03/21(Fri)00:33:43 No. fg-WR48M5YJ [Report]

>>fg-R9ZP07NW >if (system.usesMouse) > return TRASH an npc like you would never understand the glory that is plan9's mouse usage like >>fg-F8QZSKA6 said, even the mouse interface of made of raw basedium

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Anonymous 09/19/21(Sun)00:52:12 No. fg-4CWPTSJ4 [Report] >>fg-FWCD1HKA

>>fg-M7EG3PY2 (OP) Session is an alternative to email/whatsapp that tries not to leak Metadata everywhere https://getsession.org

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Anonymous 10/12/21(Tue)12:00:39 No. fg-6HYD4724 [Report]

>>fg-R9ZP07NW https://www.asktog.com/readerMail/1999-12ReaderMail.html mice > all

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Anonymous 10/14/21(Thu)21:11:40 No. fg-FWCD1HKA [Report]

>>fg-4CWPTSJ4 I2P-Bote is another alternative to email. You can also send messages totally anonymously by not including a return address

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Anonymous 10/16/21(Sat)01:29:28 No. fg-NT0AHF7G [Report]

>>fg-4CWPTSJ4 >Cloudflare

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Anonymous 10/16/21(Sat)03:35:14 No. fg-ESE1FXQ7 [Report] >>fg-VG2TUH21

what do the fedichads think of bitmessage?

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Anonymous 10/20/21(Wed)15:33:19 No. fg-VG2TUH21 [Report]

>>fg-ESE1FXQ7 I looked into it a bit. It seems like I2P-Bote is better. Haven't used either though.


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